From our Italian Friends

Many times, we have spoken on this blog about the dangers of falling for the massive amounts of misinformation on how to cure cancer that is foisted on desperate people by alternative “healers.”
Here is another dramatic example: the heartbreaking story of a young Italian woman with breast cancer, who turned to Tullio Simoncini for help and was cruelly let down. The story created much echo and indignation on the Italian internet. Everyone diagnosed with cancer, who believes in the natural goodness and altruism of alternative “healers” and is considering treatment by Tullio Simoncini or any other alternative miracle healer, should read this.
One day, a young woman by the nickname “Aysha” joined a forum on alternative medicine. She had decided to forgo conventional therapy for her breast cancer. She had joined the forum for advice and support. Those of you who read Italian can click here.
During her treatment, Aysha became more and more disappointed by Simoncini’s treatment and she said so on the forum. There were others as well who vented their doubts and disappointments. All critical posts have been deleted by the forum owner, and all of the forum members, including Aysha, were eventually banned from the forum, after some very cruel things were said to her.
However, I have succeeded in preserving the complete thread (with thanks to B**), which can be viewed here: http://www.aerrepici.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3503
Aysha had breast cancer in the past, the first time in 2004, in her left breast. She had a mastectomy and chemotherapy. In 2006, she was diagnosed with cancer in her right breast. She had chemotherapy and surgery, as well as a reconstruction procedure.
A naturopath prescribes vitamines and diet (Nutriflor, Nutrimax, A.I. Protex, Essiac). Aysha feels in good health. In September, a red spot appears on the skin of her right breast. A biopsy confirms that it is cancer. Aysha then contacts Tullio Simoncini, a former doctor, via e-mail and telephone. He prescribes thermal baths for 20 days and intravenous solutions of bicarbonate, which she is to administer herself. He also prescribes injections in her breast which he will administer himself, but as it turned out he was always too busy, so she never received these.
It was difficult for Aysha, who had a young child, to organize such a long stay away from home to be able to take the thermal baths, but she followed through. Her skin was looking worse however, there were sores and inflammations, but according to Simoncini this was a good sign as it showed that the therapy was taking effect.
When she had had 3 rounds of sodium bicarbonate, she felt two lumps in her armpit the size of pinheads, right under the skin. She said: “I see no improvement at all, the whole area is red and it reaches almost to the left side. I fee very demoralized.”
Aysha then had a meeting with her oncologist, who asked her why she waited so long before starting her treatment. She told the doctor she was taking thermal baths (she did not mention Simoncini). She also said: “I expect the inflammation and edema to regress after some time.” The doctor says that even if this is so, this would not necessarily mean that she is improving, because the disease may progress within. Perhaps, Aysha says, I am unconsciously convincing myself that I’m getting better because I don’t want chemotherapy and monoclonal antibody therapy (trastuzumab) or radiation. The doctor tells Aysha that her prognosis is serious!
A friend of Aysha’s writes on the forum of a Cancer Institute and they state that cancer can NOT be cured with “natural” (“alternative”) medicine. They also say they are very sorry that people’s good faith is being abused and taken advantage of in this way.
But the naturopaths in the alternative forum know better and this includes the metastases in her lymphnodes: the only reason they are swollen is because they are working hard to get rid of the sodium bicarbonate waste. That is only natural, so the swelling is perfectly normal and nothing to worry about.
There are also the habitual attacks on conventional doctors: “Veronesi & Co will never cure anyone of cancer, if they deserve a Nobel Prize, it is for impudence, all they have to offer is idle chatter.”
They tell Aysha that her case is by no means serious. She will receive good advice on the forum and she should go on taking her supplements and do what they tell her. And they have a very important advice: Don’t speak with family and friends about your treatments. Keep it a secret!
Simonini tells Aysha that her cancer has regressed slightly but that this is not serious. The most important thing is that the disease does not return. He prescribes another 4 cycles of sodium bicarbonate, to ensure that no metastases will occur. He does not give her any injections, but tells her this is no problem, because if there were no metastases to begin with, they are not likely to occurr now. Aysha suggest that perhaps they can take out the implants and insert catheters in the breast. Simoncini has very little time for her, because there is another appointment at the same time and he only looks at her very briefly.
Aysha’s situation is getting worse, she now has sores and open wounds and the redness of the skin is expanding. Aysha thinks the bicarbonate isn’t working or that she isn’t getting any. The lumps in her armpit have grown considerably and hurt when she lifts her arm. But according to Simonicini, the disease will have stopped by now. Aysha is afraid and doesn’t know what to do. The naturopaths on the forum advise her to take ricotta and nettle-poultices, as these help to take the toxins out.
In spite of a total of 7 treatments, Aysha’s skin is only getting worse, her skin looks infected and she has big sores and bladders on her chest. She thinks that perhaps this is because she has not received the injections.
The naturopaths on the forum keep advising Aysha to go on with the ricotta and the nettle-poultices.
Then she has another appointment with Simoncini. He now tells her that it is not a good sign that the sores are still open and that the disease is progressing. He thinks she has an infection. He says he wants to try and take out the implants and insert catheters under the skin, to stop the infection. This has to be done in a private hospital, as no public hospital will perform such an intervention and it will cost about 10,000 euros.
He tells her this is very urgent and that if she does not have this intervention, she is sure to have pleural metastases within a week. How can this be, Aysha wondered, when just a month ago he told her that the disease has stopped? Aysha felt devastated and did not know what to do anymore. She also says she had the feeling that she was scared into agreeing to this treatment.
Apparently then, the cause of Aysha’s misery is now no longer a fungus, but an infection, either bacterial or viral, or perhaps both. The people on the forum are referring to Pauling, Hulda Clarck etc. And now they are telling her this.
On the forum, where there also are employees of Simoncni, they are now suggesting that Aysha did not follow Simonicini’s treatment correctly, thus suggesting she is making things up to put the blame on Simoncini. Aysha swears she has done everything Simoncini prescribed to the letter.
They also say that Simonini has offered to find her a place in a clinic for free. Aysha says this is not true. He did not explicitly say that she had to pay, but she felt he was trying to scare her so much about her condition that she would agree to anything he said.
During the appointments, which never lasted longer than a few minutes, Simoncini kept checking his mail and answered the phone several times. He only looked at her skin superficially and never once looked at her medical file from the oncologist. During the last appointment he was also very busy with a Dutch patient who apparently was of more interest to him than Aysha.
Aysha said she couldn’t help thinking of his website, where it says about him that he is so empathic and altruistic.
Aysha said that her sister had an appointment with a clinic where the catheter would have to be inserted. There they told her that this kind of procedure would never be permitted under these conditions because it amounted to malpractice.
Then the atmosphere on the forum changed. Aysha’s posts were deleted, she was under constant attacks, accused of twisting the facts, of contradicting herself, by members of Simoncini’s staff (GHIBLI for example), who insist on defending their guru. They try to make Aysha feel guilty that she has not recovered and try to make her believe this is her own fault because she did not follow the protocol correctly. If someone does not recover, it must be their own fault. It can never be Simoncini’s, for he has saved the lives of so many and would never leave a patient in a terminal stage, they say.
That he looks at his pc and answers the phone during his appointments with Aysha is because he is such a saint: he can refuse no one, the poor healer. That he never looked at her file was because he had known about her condition all the time, but was not telling her out of pity, to keep her hopes up and protect her from knowing the awful truth. And isn’t that very kind of him, not telling Aysha how serious her condition is? Wouldn’t anyone want their doctor to be like this?
Aysha says that she always trusted Simoncini, although there were many things that she did not understand and in spite of her condition getting worse all the time. She says she trusted him with all her heart.
Now many people on the forum are asking questions and want to know what is happening. The naturopaths on the forum are increasingly annoyed by this.
In the last appointment Aysha had with Simoncini, she told him that the money would not be a problem, but that she was not sure anymore that she could trust him. She would speak with her parents who had always supported her and they would think it over. Simonicini seemed nervous and, while Aysha was still there, put on his jacket and had already opened the entrance door.
Aysha asks the naturopaths if they realize what they have written, that there was no hope for her and that Simoncini knew this from the start. Is she to believe that Simoncini knew even then that nothing could be done for her, but that at the same time he made her believe he could save her? So had he been deceiving her from the start? While in the beginning, according to her oncologist, her bloodtests were so good that she was even advised to take TAC? Does Simoncini even know what he is doing at all?
Then Aysha is banned from the forum and new forum rules are laid out: the least “impropriety” will immediately result in a ban.
Aysha died in October 2008. We hope that her story may serve as an example and a warning to those who believe that alternative “healers” are by definition always good and altruistic people.

31 responses so far ↓
Rich // April 13, 2009 at 3:24 pm
As I said, I wouldn’t trust Simonici to cure a yeast infection, let alone cancer. If you don’t like your doctor, get a second opinion, or a new doctor.
If you suspect a yeast/fungus problem, then test for it… or go find a yeast doctor.
http://www.fungusfocus.com/html/diagnostic_lab_tests2.htm
If it’s an inoperable/uncurable cancer, there are still more and better options than Simonici, things proven scientifically in a lab. There are additional steps I would take, things I would test for if I had cancer, but these oncologists deal with 20 cancer patients per day, for years, and ignoring their experience seems foolish.
Cancer research is getting better and better by the day, with new and exciting developments all the time. I will post some of these. Here is 1 example:
Enzyme behind cancer spread found
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7813072.stm
It seems like there is a lot of promising stuff in the lab and on the horizon. I expect some major breakthroughs in the next 5 to 10 years (certainly not helpful if you have cancer now, though).
beatis // April 13, 2009 at 4:11 pm
I agree there are very exiciting developments going on right now and I so very, very much hope that there will be some major breakthroughs in the near future.
Would you mind if I put your link in our Varia page?
Rich // April 13, 2009 at 4:58 pm
“Would you mind if I put your link in our Varia page?”
– Sure.
Also, since this is a Simonici topic, and I mentioned yeast, and criticized his baking soda cure for yeast, here is a new treatment undergoing phase 2 trials for thrush (Note: it does not use just baking soda). Not that I am advocating using experimental treatments. Note: this did pass the phase I trials for safety.
This one has baking soda, peroxide, and two anti-infectives in Iodine and Boric acid. Uses a specific ph, concentrations, and shows the kill rate at different ph’s. Treats gingivitis as well. It also talks about the FDA approved treatment for Gum disease, Chlorhexadine, as well.
http://friopharma.com/
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=frio
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/WO2008005059.html
beatis // April 13, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I had baking soda as well, together with a number of other things in the mixture, to protect my veins when I had chemo.
beatis // April 13, 2009 at 5:16 pm
@ Rich,
Here it is: http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/medicine-cancer-cam-complementary-alternative/ Thnx!
Jaro Belicka // September 11, 2009 at 10:26 am
beatis did you know this Aysha? How youg was she?
Jaro Belicka // September 11, 2009 at 10:32 am
Than again what will you say about so many positive comments and testimonies of all those who were healed by dr.Simonchini. There are more of those who were healed then those who were not. Isn’t that opposite of the standard process (surgery, chemo and radiation) patient cases where most of them die?
beatis // September 11, 2009 at 11:00 am
I don’t know anyone who was healed by Simoncini. I don’t know anyone who knows anyone who was healed by Simoncini. Positive comments and testimonies are worthless, I can write one up right now. It’s evidence we need. And there isn’t any.
beatis // September 11, 2009 at 11:09 am
No. But the person who gave me the information did.
Jaro // September 11, 2009 at 11:13 am
what is your profesion beatis, may I ask?
beatis // September 11, 2009 at 11:42 am
I am a linguist, I studied languages and majored in lexicography. Some years ago I began studying philosophy. I plan on majoring in ethics, virtue ethics to be precise. I work as a communications advisor.
I am assisted on this blog by a scientist/pathologist, a gyneacologist and a chemist.
Why would you want to know about my profession?
jli // September 11, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Apart from pure fabrication, there are other things that can be problematic with testimonials. Sometimes the cancer was actually cured before Simoncinis treatment was given. See for instance http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/tullio-simoncini-and-how-not-to-cure-skin-cancer/#more-2100 and http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/04/13/tullio-simoncini-cures-woman-of-bladder-cancer-by-e-mail/
One of his cases that he uses as a prime example of the efficacy of his methods is so easy to expose as wrong if you know what to look for. You can see the example for yourself here: http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/simoncinis-miracle-cure-in-cat-scans/
If you are interested in a more in depth description of what can be wrong with cancer treatment testimonials I recommend http://www.users.on.net/~pmoran/cancer/how_to_read_a_testimonial.htm
In addition comes his idea that cancer is a fungus. Why this is wrong is explained in easily understandable terms at http://www.123hjemmeside.dk/cancer_is_not_a_fungus
Given that Simoncini has a medical education there is no way he doesn´t know this. If he is deliberately being dishonest about what cancer is made of, why should he be more honest about the efficacy of his treatment?
F T // November 10, 2009 at 8:02 am
Did Aysha found cure before she contacted Dr Simoncini. Honestly she should criticized those who removed her breasts and inject chemo and radiation to her body instead of curing her and accuse some one who wanted to help her in her very late situation. She should contacted Dr Simoncini from the early stage to benefit as the others who benefited and stop spreading lies about Dr Simoncini and if you are not convinced why did you stop treating with the chemo and radiation. Go a head with a mastectomy and chemotherapy if you are satisfied .
anaximperator // November 10, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Who do you think you are, blaming the patient for Simoncini’s deceit?
Where is his evidence that cancer is a fungus?
Where is his evidence that fungus (= cancer) can be cured wit baking soda?
Where is his evidence of all the patients he is supposed to have cured?
Other than stupid, easily debunked testimonials he has nothing to show for himself. The man is a fool and a cheat.
d // November 10, 2009 at 5:56 pm
in looking around for some answers regarding a recent diagnosis of my mother in law having stage 4 lung cancer i was not finding much in the way of treatment.
a friend directed me to a youtube site with simoncini’s info and i found it quite interesting.
then i came across this site and found some conflicting comments, then i found the following site which seemed to offer some good information/facts.
i think you should look at this – would be interested in everyones comments:
http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070706191738AA9C3OU
FYI – not taking a position for or against all this, just looking around for some “real” answers, if they exist.
ciao
d
beatis // November 10, 2009 at 6:34 pm
I am very sorry for your mother in law. Perhaps she would qualify for a scientific trial, or for an experimental treatment normally available only in a trial (or offered in one) outside of a trial; see our post on compassionate use of experimental drugs.
Simoncini will not be able to do anything for your mother in law, as his treatment is completely useless. Cancer is no fungus and even if it were, it could not be cured with sodium bicarbonate. Simoncini is just dead wrong, both about the cause of cancer and the way is should be treated, so in our opinion he is a quack.
WeWee // November 10, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Dear d,
sorry for your mother in law but Simoncini it’s not the answer to cancer.
He’s simply (sadly) a charlatan.
Here in Italy he is considered a liar. Never healed anyone, calls for money and proves nothing of his theories.
Be careful not to fall into his trap.
jli // November 11, 2009 at 7:20 pm
@ d
I´m also sorry for your mother in law, and I understand and sympathize with your wish to help her. I aknowledge that it can be very difficult to figure out if Simoncini is on to something, or if it is complete quackery. On this blog there are examples of his evidence, that you can chek out for yourself. You can find that post here: http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/simoncinis-miracle-cure-in-cat-scans/
I am guessing that the youtube video you have been presented to is the one(s) where he is interviewed by a man named Doug Kaufmann. If that is the case you might find it helpful to compare what Simoncini explains about cancer anatomy with what is explained at http://www.123hjemmeside.dk/cancer_is_not_a_fungus/21160727
An important thing to keep in mind as you look into the above is, that given his medical education, there is no way he can be unaware of the points presented in the above links.
WeWee // November 20, 2009 at 7:25 pm
I can confirm that Aysha died in october 2008.
beatis // November 20, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Thank you WeWee. This is very sad. So young. I will add this information to the post.
Jaro // November 20, 2009 at 8:48 pm
So what if this person died? How many thousands of those who were treated by those “good doctors and sergeants” died and nobody sais anything. They are not to be blamed. All patients have to sign indemnity before they will butcher him or her.
I had number of friends including my father who trusted “good doctors and sergeants” and they are all dead.
Then I have one friend who was given 7 months to live if he will not undergo treatment by these “good doctors and sergeants” and 15 years later he is still here alive and well with healthy prostate. All fixed naturally. Praise be to God. So do not be one sided. Look at positive and negative on both sides.
anaximperator // November 20, 2009 at 8:56 pm
What is positive about Simoncini? That he lies about curing people when in reality they have already been cured by standard medicine? That he has a succes rate of zero? That he lies to his patients habitually? That he is a lousy surgeon? That he tells tearjerkingly stupid things about cancer?
Can’t see anything positive here.
Jaro // November 20, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Well if you wish to be negative about Simoncini it is your choice.
I only wanted to say that there is ten times more negative stuff on the other side with those “good doctors and surgeons”.
beatis // November 20, 2009 at 9:21 pm
There is negative stuff everywhere. This is life, remember?
But with the doctors and surgeons you so intensely hate, over 60% of cancer patients are cured. With your beloved Simonini, no one is cured.
It’s time you took off those blinders.
Jaro // November 21, 2009 at 6:08 am
No I did not. Last time I shared the case of George Malkmus, the Godly man who had a prostate cancer and got well without treatments by “good doctors and surgeons” but you will dispute again as you did about George’s cure. Just because they refused the ways of mainstream medical “good doctors and surgeons” that means they did not have cancer at all. You do not believe his testimony just like you do not believe the testimony of my friend John.
You will not believe even the ton of evidence when your mind is set on your ways only with probability of your hand being in pharmaceutical pocket.
anaximperator // November 21, 2009 at 9:31 am
Malkmus admitted publicly that he never had cancer, so why should we believe his testimony that he cured himself of cancer??
You have not provided tons of evidence. In fact, you have not provided any evidence at all, just silly, implausible “testimonies”.
Jaro // November 21, 2009 at 11:11 am
“”"just silly, implausible “testimonies”.”"” Just like 60% cured by “good doctors” and “good surgeons”? I would be surprised if you can provide evidence that 5% are well 10 years and beyond their treatment or treatments by “good doctors” and “good surgeons”. All those I knew with cancer, those who went your way are dead.
Jaro // November 21, 2009 at 11:14 am
Also I would like you show evidence that George Malkmus ever said that he did not have cancer. That is just another spin of yours same as what you do about Dr.Simoncini. Repeated lie becomes truth.
WeWee // November 21, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Repeated lie becomes truth.
Exactly Jaro. This is what Simoncini try to do.
beatis // November 21, 2009 at 12:40 pm
I posted this the first time you came along here:
See: http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/malkmus.html
Nutritionists and chiropractors are not capable of diagnosing cancer. Malkmus made the whole thing up, he probably had just a benign cyst and is telling lies to promote his business.
This is the third time you have come here to advertise George Malkmus’s raw-food quackery. You should know by now that we won’t fall for this crap.
Btw: mr Malkmus’s diet is considered heresy by many devout Christians:
http://www.letgodbetrue.com/bible/heresies/hallelujah-diet.htm
beatis // November 21, 2009 at 12:44 pm
http://www.eurocare.it/Results/tabid/79/Default.aspx