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Acid, Alkaline Diets, pH Balance And Cancer

There are a number of physiological processes which are so vital to our survival that meddling with them in any way would mean almost certain death.

Maintaining the pH of our blood is one of these vital activities.

As a safety measure to ensure that these activities are maintained at the right level at all times, their regulation is an automatic process, carried out by the autonomic nervous system. The autonomic nervous system functions largely below our level of consciousness.

The digestive system is a part of the autonomic nervous system and contrary to what many people think, we have no way of influencing it by means of what we eat.

Our body sees to it that our blood’s pH is 7.4 – slightly alkaline or basic.

Maintaining the pH is done by our digestive system in such a way that everything we eat and digest will end up at the same pH in our intestines – from 7.35 to 7.45 – no matter what the pH was at the moment we put it into our mouth. Excess acidity is eliminated in the kidneys and the waste ends up in our urine.

Therefore, acid urine does not mean there is something wrong with our body’s pH, but means our body is doing exactly what it is supposed to do: getting rid of waste. The initial pH of anything we eat is completely irrelevant to the pH of our blood.

Our body is a very efficient soft machine that rids us of toxic waste quickly and effectively.  There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that our urine’s pH correlates with serious diseases like cancer, as is claimed by for example Robert O. Young, founder of  “The pH Miracle center”.

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30 responses to “Acid, Alkaline Diets, pH Balance And Cancer

  1. D February 5, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    Urine pH testing to check blood pH is nonsense. Urine pH changes over the day according to a well known circadian rythm, and an urinary tract infection will usually lower the pH. A particular diet will also influence urine pH (without affecting blood pH). Who checks all these influences before checking the urine pH ? Here in Germany, alternative healer also use a test of saliva pH to detect (or better invent) a „Übersäuerung“ („acidosis“), a common pseudodiagnosis and disease-mongering in order to sell dietary supplements or to continue their treatment. Some try to pseudodiagnose „acidosis“ with a microscope, looking for normal blood – „rouleau formation“, another common nonsense.

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  4. Dr. Sylar October 16, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    “There is no evidence to suggest that our urine’s pH correlates with serious diseases like cancer.”

    Forgive me for again, the GNM consultant speaking out of me, but I cannot explain my thoughts without taking the 5 Biological Natural Laws into consideration. I would like to inform those who have not read the arguments about GNM before, that this part of GNM, the 5 Biological Natural Laws were already confirmed, yet questions are still open and not verified about the effective therapy in the PCL phase.

    My mentor raised an interesting approach on this topic as well in one of her trainings.

    Some studies show a correlation between blood pH and cancer and some do not. On the other hand, diseases that are linked to pH by scientists pro pH balance theories, like candida, are in most of the cases PCL phase symptoms (GNM: diseases, even cancer stand from a CA and a PCL phase). Based on the 5 BNLs were confirmed, it would make sense to make a research about pH correlation in the PCL phase. Shall the scientists find a correlation between PCL phase of a disease and blood pH, would define the circumstances (PCL phase) when that correlation can be found.

    If such a correlation is found that blood pH relates to the PCL phase (and PCL phase only) of the diseases, would bring up an interesting question.

    Accepting that the 5 BNLs were confirmed, and finding a correlation between blood pH and PCL phase, Flora would make a hypothesis that “Diseases are not caused by the pH balance of our blood, but on the contrary, change in the blood pH balance and acidosis may be simply one of the symptoms of a PCL phase of a disease or illness (including cancer).” And yep, I agree that checking urine pH is not the right method to determine blood pH for what you have already mentioned in this article.

    But for that one, such a case study should be done, researching the blood pH of patients being in the PCL phase. So far I am not aware of such any studies, because although the 5 BNLs were confirmed, they are still not taken into consideration when researches are performed. Yet, I think Flora’s idea is an interesting one to be taken into consideration and to think about.

    Should she be right, would also explain why some scientists believe the blood pH has anything to do with diseases, including cancer.

  5. beatis October 16, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    @ Dr. Sylar

    Re your comment

    Beatis can confirm that I wrote her, the describing part (including DHS) was confirmed. Exactly the way Beatis asked: test one person, then test more, if still true, furthe rresearch. This was exactly what the University of Trnava confirmed and many more. They tested it on 5-20 patients and found 100% correlation. The 5 Biological Natural Laws, DHS, 2 phases, germ layers, and so on.

    I’m sorry but this is not what I mean by “confirmed”. When I use the word “confirm” I mean that outcomes of a scientific study have been reproduced by other scientists in similar circumstances in independent studies and that these studies have been made public and peer reviewed.

    Scientists propose hypotheses or theories to explain certain phenomena. They then design experimental studies for testing their hypotheses. In essence, a hypothesis is a prediction: the scientist predicts what he expects to happen if his hypothesis is correct.

    Scientific research must be as objective as possible, so as to rule out bias in the interpretations of the outcomes. Another imperative is that the scientist documents, archives and shares everything that he does, in order to have it scrutinized by other scientists, thus giving them the opportunity to verify and reproduce the results. This practice is called “full disclosure”. Full disclosure is also important because everybody can check for themselves how reliable the statistical data of the studies are.

    None of this applies to Hamer. So what it was that was “confirmed” I don’t know, but it certainly wasn’t a scientific confirmation of his theories in any sense.

    So how the cancer cells in the bloodstreem decide which organ to choose next? What is the pattern they follow? Why don’t they metastase on an organ close to them, why do they float to a distant one?

    They do often metastasize to an organ close by, sometimes in the same organ. My own cancer started metastasizing right away and I had two metastatic tumours in my breast next to the primary one.

    Cancer cells like to settle in surroundings that have certain similarities to the organ they originated in. Sometimes this is close to the primary tumour and sometimes this is further away. This is also explained on the blog.

    I don’t know what Dr. Hamer added to GNM in the recent 30 years, but what we accept as GNM and apply here is the original one, the 5 BNLs that are confirmed.

    They certainly have not been confirmed scientifically. I’ll be honest with you about these “BNL” or “Biological Laws of Nature” – and I’m sorry if I should hurt your feelings in the process, but the the amount of gish gallop presented here is truly shocking and makes me want to cry with sadness, frustration, rage and despair and bang my head against the wall because of the sheer idiocy on display here. It is nothing but a horrible mishmash of dangerous nonsense.

    So the truth in fact is, the basics of GNM is confirmed.

    No it is not and it never will be, for it is completely at odds with reality.

    that made me upset was that you called something entirely crap (generalizing) instead of looking into it and saying, well, many things in GNM are confirmed, and yep, there are also ones which are not.

    Nothing of the GNM has been scientifically confirmed. Prof V Krcmery – one of the scientists who are supposed to have signed this “confirmation” said, when asked, that Hamer was sacked from the university of Trvana because his work did not meet even the most basic standards and that there is no such confirmation in the archives or the university. I think Hamer just made that up himself, just like he has done with many other documents.

  6. beatis October 16, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    The “BNLs” have not in any way been scientifically confirmed.

  7. Dr. Sylar October 16, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    “Prof V Krcmery – one of the scientists who are supposed to have signed this “confirmation” said, when asked, that Hamer was sacked from the university of Trvana because his work did not meet even the most basic standards and that there is no such confirmation in the archives or the university. I think Hamer just made that up himself, just like he has done with many other documents.” (beatis)

    Can you please, also provide a source for it (if the source of information is that you called this gentleman and he answered you by phone is fine as well, but then I also need to talk to him to verify on this)? If such an abusement occurs, professors, scientists usually make a statement to clarify and do not leave such a case just hanging in the air without any response.

    So I am pretty much sure that if this is the case, there should be at least one official statement in written form, verified on the internet. I searched for those documents myself as well, did not find any… though, internet is huge. So in case you are aware of any source like that, please, don’t hesitate to share, I am more than open to have a look… and thank you for your help.

  8. JennyJo October 16, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    @ Dr. Sylar

    This is what it says here:

    In den Archiven der Uni Trnava findet sich keine Aufzeichnung über diese „Verifikation“, was wiederum überhaupt nicht den wissenschaftlichen Gepflogenheiten entspricht.[11] Der Dekan der Universität, Prof. Vladimir Krcmery, äußerte sich folgendermaßen zu dem umstrittenen einseitigen Papier: „Ein Kommission, bestehend aus 33 Medizinern, hat seine Methoden überprüft. Und für falsch befunden. Darum wurde ihm im September 1998 ein negativer Bescheid zugestellt.“[12] Zudem befinde sich die sogenannte Verifikationsurkunde gar nicht im Archiv der medizinischen Fakultät, habe auch keine Ausgangsnummer (Evidenznummer) einer regelkonformen Urkunde der Universität. Außerdem sei Hamer bei dem Versuch sich an seiner Universität zu habilitieren, durchgefallen.”

    From a letter of prof. V. Kcrmery to the Slovakian Embassy, answering the Embassy’s request for information concerning Hamer’s “Habilitation” (promotion) at the university of Trnava, here’s what prof. Kcrmery writes (transl. by me):

    In answer to your questions in your letter dated 10.12.1998 I inform you as follows:

    1 / The Faculty of Public Health (School of Health Sciences)
    2 / has no copy of the letter you sent me there in the archive of the Faculty of Science and there is no registration number under which such a letter (verification) was archived;.
    3 / In my capacity as Dean of the Faculty of Health I state that Hamer’s application for a habilitation (PhD) was rejected by the habilitation committee, as well as by the Scientific Council.

    These are facts, the rest is speculation

    Sincerely,

    prof. MD. Vladimir Krčméry, DrSc.

    Dean.

    http://www.esowatch.com/ge/index.php?title=GNM-Verifikationen#cite_note-10

  9. Dr. Sylar October 16, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    “…here’s what prof. Kcrmery writes (transl. by me):” (Jenny Jo)

    Do you have any outher source for this letter (maybe a scan)? I ask because the one you linked is coming from Mr. Pilhar’s webpage, it is simply typed (Mr. Pilhar is known of one of the greatest GNM supporters and afterwards he quotes more letters verifying the Trnava document).

    And if you read further, there is a letter from Dr. Jozef Miklosko: “The undersigned is in possession of the three original copies, and Dr. Hamer in possession of a further 2 copies.” (translated by Google Translate)

    I am not looking for those kind of evidences.

    I will doublecheck the other one, EsoWatch, but it takes a long time to deeply go in their references if they are referring to real evidence or just a plain PDF (that can be created by anyone). Until then I would say it is undecided from my side to accept the linked reference or not.

  10. beatis October 16, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    I am not looking for those kind of evidences.

    You can write a letter to prof. Kcrmery if you don’t believe the information given and I don’t really care what you are looking for.

    We have been looking for your evidence but all you have done is fob us off with more rambling comments.

    Hamer is a very deluded man and a danger to any patient suffering from a serious disease.

    So, once again: please provide us with the scientific evidence that proves Hamer right about the cause of cancer and how to cure it.

  11. Dr. Sylar October 16, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    “You can write a letter to prof. Kcrmery if you don’t believe the information given…” (beatis)

    That really makes more sense than surfing the web for who claims what about whom. I am sorry to bother you with my comments and again, I would like to emphasize that my comments are not with any intention of harm.

    Hereby I would like to thank jli for the meaningful discussions, his patience, being honest and open-minded, which I indeed appreciate a much.

  12. beatis October 16, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    I know the people at EsoWatch check and double check everything on their site.

  13. Dr. Sylar October 16, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    “I know the people at EsoWatch check and double check everything on their site.” (beatis)

    How do you know? And how a lay should know?

  14. beatis October 16, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    Perhaps you can answer some questions yourself for a change.
    🙂

  15. Dr. Sylar October 16, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    “Perhaps you can answer some questions yourself for a change.” (beatis)

    All I am asking for is evidence about the creditibility of EsoWatch.

    If you know something I don’t, why not to share? 🙂 I am open. And others reading your blog would have a benefit on you answering that question.

  16. beatis October 16, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Well, for one thing, I have never heard of a scientist having his theories “verified” with a document like that and gaining a PhD on the basis of it. Scientists present a thesis, for which they have done extensive research and after the promotion everyone can read the thesis, because it is made public via the university and often also published as a book. Gaining a PhD doesn’t happen in the way that Hamer cliams, it’s just plain ridiculous and totally incredible.

    This kind of “verification” simply does not exist within universities.

  17. wilmamazone October 16, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    I am open.

    rotflderotfl 😆

    And others reading your blog would have a benefit on you answering that question.

    What a gently mocking person you are!

  18. wilmamazone October 16, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    https://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/debunkinghamer-on-cancermetastasis-slam-dunk/#comment-3057

    Oh my goodness! There never was a test of Trnava on the first place.
    Play deaf or what?

  19. Dr. Sylar October 16, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    “Gaining a PhD doesn’t happen in the way that Hamer cliams…” (beatis)

    The Trnava document (which supposed to be the verification) has nothing within about PhD. If this (Dr. Hamer’s claims about PhD) can be read on the EsoWatch page, I am still waiting for evidence on their creditability.

  20. beatis October 16, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    If is not a PhD or “Habilitation” – which Hamer failed according to prof. Kcrmery, then I don’t know what it is.
    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habilitation

    The kind of “verifications” that Hamer shows us don’t exist within universities. You can’t just go to a bunch of professors and say, hey, I have a theory, would you verify it for me?

    I don’t believe a word of the whole Trnava story as told by Hamer or his other verification claims either for that matter.

    Ever heard of a narcissistic personality disorder?

  21. beatis October 16, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    You’re trolling and spamming this whole blog with your Hamer quackery. Don’t push you luck.

  22. wilmamazone October 16, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Ever heard of committing forgery?
    Ever heard of committing forgery in a stupid way?
    The Trnava document is forgery in a stupid way.

  23. beatis October 16, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Orac, aka David Gorski, blogs about The “Iron Rule of Cancer”: The dangerous cancer quackery that is the “German New Medicine”

    the dangerous and vile quackery known as the German New Medicine

    Vile indeed.

  24. jli October 17, 2010 at 11:00 am

    Hereby I would like to thank jli for the meaningful discussions,

    Well, thank you, but I am really not discussing. I am simply trying to explain reality on matters concerning pathologic anatomy.

  25. Dr. Sylar October 17, 2010 at 11:13 am

    The tone was on meaningful, not discussion. But anyway, thanks again.

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  29. veeravs November 8, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    I JUST LOVE THIS BLOG – I’m just a plain medical oncologist who has forgotten most of the secrets of biochemistry and other pre-clinical subjects. Quackery is a very annoying problem and we need simple, concise information for argumentation against it. Thank you!

  30. JLI November 10, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    Thank you veeravs. I also hope your patients will find the blog informative and helpful.

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