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Yes – but sometimes it makes things turn white. See for instance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWMjwcFI2t8&feature=related
And Simoncini says that cancer is always white. Now that makes sodium bicarbonate dangerous – doesn´t it? I´d opt for natural brute force to extend my finger if necessary. Can´t be too careful.
Oh this is all so hilarious! 😆
Miracle stuff it is, this baking soda, absolute miracle stuff!
Sodium bicarbonate may work since it alkalises
the body and cancer cells need an acidic environment. Potassium calcium magnesium and sodium all alkalise increasing oxygenation
as well. Since cancer cells use lactic acid and dont like oxygen – it is therefore plausible.
Don’t think that a cure need be complex. Scurvy
was around for 150 years because of bloody minded medics and it could be cured by half a lemon.
There is no evidence that changing your blood’s acidity can cure cancer, or any other disease for that matter. Also, changing the body’s acidity can be very dangerous. It may kill you: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html
Oh, btw, how was scurvy around because of “bloody minded” medics? Can you explain this please?
This is incredible…:
The most important thing is that this videos are more documented than those of simoncini…
😉
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Beatis,
Check out absolutly everythind on the sit of Quackwatch the guy calls himself a Dr but is obviously paid by the Big Pharma. Against all common sense and volumes of proof poSitive for alternative. HE SHOOTS THEM ALL DOWN AS QUACKERY. TRUTH IS HE IS IN MY VIEW THE WOLDS MOST DANGEROUS, MORE DANGEROUS THEN BIN LADEN.
BeatisEdit: I allowed your comment, not because we agree with it in any way, but in order to let people see for themselves what constitutes the mentality of certain quacks and their followers.
We challenge you to deliver the ‘proof positive for alternative’ and also to give evidence for your claim that Stephen Barrett is paid by ‘Big Pharma’ (which I know for a fact he isn’t but since you seem to know better the challenge is yours).
O btw, you might want to clean up your website: it is extremely unsafe to visit as it is riddled with viruses, trojan horses and other mess.
CryptoEdit: removed link
OK…
Bicarb is useful as a raw material for certain simple compounds which are useful medicinally, for instance sodium citrate, which can be used as an demulcent in cystitis and so forth. If you happened to take it with a food containing an organic acid, it would amount to taking that actual compound were it ionic. To that extent it’s useful medicinally, but since it’s a source of sodium it wouldn’t be the kind of thing you’d want to take much of. Also, it’s potentially toxic because of the pH problem.
Now to address some other comments.
I don’t know who is saying cancer is always white, but in terms of traditional Western medicine as well as contemporary mainstream medicine, that’s clearly nonsense. In times when humoral medicine was taken seriously, tumour necrosis and blackening would have been interpreted as melancholy, which is almost always bad. Don’t know who is saying that, but it sounds deeply inept and in no respectable tradition.
Lactic acid and cancer cells? Well that’s interesting because of the popular recommendation of the use of cyanogenic glycosides, which that would contradict, though i’m fine with that being contradicted because glycolysis does become more important in cancer. The other side of that, of course, would be the volume of distribution involved combined with the change in pH of the internal environment. I don’t think you could do much with bicarb before it became dangerous, though citric acid might alkalinise more.
On the matter of acid-base balance, whereas a dramatic deviation from the physiological pH of the internal environment would clearly be lethal, i don’t think it’s clear what the consequences of a smaller deviation would be.
However (sorry to go on), the alkalinity would have to get all the way from the interstitial compartment, through cell plasma membranes and the mitochondrial membranes to have that action. I don’t know that that would do this. I want to do some maths on this.
It’s Tullio Simoncini who claims all cancers are white:
https://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/be-wary-of-simoncini-cancer-treatment-therapy/
Here our blog pathologist jli explains that this isn’t correct:
http://www.123hjemmeside.dk/cancer_is_not_a_fungus/
every one seems to be missing the point!!!! people are dying of there different forms of cancer…with conventional treatment failing miserably……
So what is wrong with trying something different ..if you are dying anyway.
from what i heard about chemo and radium treatment …I would rather have neither of them or try some thing different or just let me die in peace.!!!
Average cure rates of conventional cancer treatments are almost 60%, so there are more people who survive cancer than die of it. I would rather try these and give myself a good chance of being cured than die for sure with unproven quack shit.
Cannabinoids / Hashish… not only as palliative but also as curative agents 🙂
look in PubMed – very nice…
Perhaps you would be so kind as to give us some links to good research showing that cannabinoids actually cures cancer.
Thank you.
Yeah! hit me doc!
http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2010/05/his_find_became_tumors_nemesis.html
This, If I’m not mistaken: http://www.pemetrexed.org
I’m not sure if it was Anax or Jli posting this before.
If I get too bored I may be willing to be a test subject and see if Cannabinoids do prevent cancer; keep it flowing, good vibes… I mean, it’s for the best interest of mankind, of course.
This also gave me a pretty impopular idea, wich I will not discuss.
It was Anax.
Now I really want to know. 😦
Well, there’s people in prison, wich will never get out for loathsome reasons… and most of them LOVE the stuff.
In my country you can legally buy the stuff in quantities for personal use. It’s utterly beyond me why people are allowed to drink themselves into a fit and cause the most horrific accidents and all other kinds of misery, but are thrown into jail for smoking a joint.
Oh, I was more thinking in… you know, having them be test subjects.
Since it involves them having the stuff they love, to see if people in risk have a lesser chance to develop the illness (a purifier would probably be needed, vaporizers I think they are called?) they would agree I’m sure, but have that be popular or liked.
Edward C. Taylor already found something, let’s see what pops! And it’s very interesting, because side effects are much lesser, of course, you can’t have people continuously stoned for prevention -altough I would pay to see ‘A world of stoners’ worth a few laughs, but would get old soon-; it does have side effects on it’s own as a drug, but you could isolate something, maybe even a vaccine for those in risk might come out.
Anyway, and I forgot to mention this before, the main risk with people thinking Cannabinoids are going to be healing them is that they most of the time forget that they’re swallowing smoke, sometimes just Cannabis, but most times mixed with tobacco, add paper, and you have a lot of toxines = not good.
Indeed! 😆
No, we can no longer use inmates as test subjects – without telling them that is. We could do a prospective study perhaps, but then we would have to bribe the prison authorities to turn a blind regarding cannabis use.
Instead of giving opinions for or aganist Simonccini Theory, why don’t somebody design a good set of experiments and evaluations of actual tumors and patients to prove, disprove, correct or refine his theory. It would be interesting to include Simmoncci in this so that he will have to concur with the final results…
Now with regard to candida and its associates, it seems to be that the infections dealt with in the Law of Moses, Leviticus chapters 13-14 look like a very dangerous type of fungus infection. For Moses and latter on Esdras to give so much atention to them, they must had been really evil. So if they were indeed a type of candida or other fungal infection…. we better investigate fungal infections more carefully….
In response to digger’s question ‘What’s wrong with trying different remedies, if you’re dying anyway?’
Well, to begin, if you’re going to try every trick in the book: you really have a lot of work to. There are litterally (no, that’s not a spelling error) hundreds, if not thousand of ‘alternative’ therapies (I hate the word ‘alternative’, since they are no alternative). And there is no way of telling which one is the worst, so If you REALLY want to get cured (and a lot of cancer patients fall into that category) you’re doing yourself injustice by missing the best. That’s actually quite a despicable aspect of quackicine : they are totally unable to give their patient reliable information on expected outcomes. A good doctor is (as you can read in ‘About You’ on this website) honest in those kind of things. (And, yes, healthcare in general has come a long way for that matter) Quacks can’t be honest, even if they’d want to. (but that would put them out of business)
And I can image that being in a constant mindframe that is set on curing cancer takes your mind away from a very important thing, namely what is descrided as ‘being caught up in anyway’, namely dying.
I don’t think that is something people should think of as a thing that will happen anyway (of course it will, but you get the point) You can influence the process, for instance by advance care planning. The past six years I’ve seen people die in many ways: the good, the bad, the ugly. Coming to peace with dying, I believe, is, when the time is there, one of the most important things in life. And good palliative care is ‘lifesaving’. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1000678
I don’t think Simoncini will concur with any results that don’t fit in his line of thinking. You can check out for yourself if you want how he (deliberately?) misread already published studies on the subject here: https://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/tullio-simoncini-and-the-research-that-wasnt/
One of the simplest experiments that can be done on the “cancer is a fungus” idea is to see if the white masses of cancer really are fungi when examined under a microscope. This experiment is actually being carried out all over the world on a daily basis. It has been proven beyond a shred of doubt that cancer is not a fungus, but this doesn’t change Simoncinis opinion. If you want to know the details of the evidence you are welcome to visit http://www.123hjemmeside.dk/cancer_is_not_a_fungus/21160727
I have successfully treated various skin cancers over the last 30 years with alternative therapies. However when I turned 60, I had a year of extreme stress including family deaths, car accidents, xrays, depression etc. One of my previous cancers returned, & a large new one appeared. My previous therapies were not working & I was booked in for surgery. In desperation I turned to the net & found the iodine, & baking soda cures. After 10 days of painting iodine on my nose, the massive scab it created came off & the skin beneath was perfect! I’m now using the baking soda on the new cancer on my scalp. Something is definately happening as the bicarb is bubbling & feels warm. I will be using the iodine again. There is no way I ‘d undergo the surgery as it’s very disfiguring & the cancers often return. As for a permanent cure, I don’t think there is one without lifestyle changes. I am quite happy with semi-permanent, continous treatment. Obviously simple alternative treatments would be anathema to the billion dollar cancer industry.
Lisa,
You say:
And this is proof to you that all cancer cells are gone??
A number of skin cancers rarely metastasize and rarely cause death and are perfectly treatable with inexpensive conventional treatments which in many cases are not disfiguring.
Melanomas tend to be more aggressive and are much more dangerous.
Here’s what puzzles me. You say:
Yet, in spite of your alternative therapies not having worked in the past, you again choose another form of alternative therapy instead of getting rid of your skin cancer once and for all with standard treatment, i.e. surgery.
In my opinion you are a fool to treat your skin cancer yourself with alternative treatments, such as self-applied iodine and baking soda. Standard medicine could have dealt with your cancer cheaply, quickly and effectively and with a minimum of disfigurement.
Are you so afraid of surgery that you are even prepared to risk your life avoiding it?
Lisa-
If it is cancer, it sounds like a probable basal cell lesion, they are usually superficial and may be treated as directed by a physician by caustic means such as iodine application or liquid nitogen to destroy the surface cells.
Or you may have had simple bacterial or fungal lesions – did you ever get it diagnosed? Either condition might be treated with iodine or it most likely just ran it’s regular, self-limited course.
In other words – get a real diagnosis and treatment by a qualified physician.
Remember the words of John Hunter
But why think, why not try the experiment
Wouldn’t it be amazing if Simoncini was on to something – how would all your research stipends from Big Pharma be effected.
fyi: don’t use Arm & Hammer, it’s got metal in it; Bob’s Red Mill makes a great alternative, & cheap too.
I think I will stick to yeast when baking bread.
Clearly anyone who has had surgery for skin cancer knows that the alternatives are worth at least a try first. I had a tiny bump which would not heal and surgical removal consisted of taking a 1/4 in deep nickle size plug out of my face and pulling all my skin over from my check to cover it. Fortunately I’m not totally disfigured, but I do have a scar running along half my lip and up to my nose that is much bigger than the tiny spot of cancer to begin with. Imagine if this was not necessary, and it may have not been which makes me mad. I would try iodine or CE5 any day over digging another plug out of my face. To those who are recently diagnosed with skin cancer, I strongly encourage you to try iodine or CE5 first. The surgery sucks and your doctor is not going to recommend any other options to you.
@ Taracy:
Try and imagine a few other scenarios:
1) A small (non-melanoma) skin cancer treated with iodine without any effect -> Big (non melanoma) skin cancer requiring more extensive surgery than the small (non-melanoma) skin cancer.
2) Small localised melanoma treated with iodine without effect -> Big melanoma that has now spread.
Cancers grow if they are not removed/destroyed. In my opinion your strategy of trying something else is a bad one, because there is a considerable risk that you will make bad things worse.
Or, what if your alternative treatment appears to work and the top-visible area appears cured, but down below the cancer is still growing? Even when a real doctor cuts out a cancer, a further test is done to be sure they got it all. I don’t think putting a baking soda / iodine paste on and having it appear to cure cancer, would leave me sleeping well at night! All this “Big Pharma” crap gets me. Are they overcharging us for many things? Yup, no doubt! Do we get a lot for our money from them? Yup! Look at all the cures for all the terrible diseases they have given us? Without them, what alternative therapy would be curing any cancers for sure? How about polio on down to pneumonia? I used to be “into” so called “natural medicine” years ago, but after many years, I had to admit, the few “cures” that occurred, could just have easily have been coincidence. I have many friends who are big into “Natural” medicine. I see very little offered, that is natural. Heck, not even 5000 mg of vitamin C is natural? Where is that found in nature? I believe alternative medicine is 95% quackery. The other 5% direct their people to eat healthy diets. I do believe-to some extent-You are what you eat. So, that natural approach is common sense!