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Is Cancer a Fungus? Tullio Simoncini and Bladder Cancer – Again

DeathThis story is a translation of a post on a French blog that tells of the night shift of a physician – a nephrologist – who is the blog owner and the author of the article. Thanks also to WeWee for this introduction, to which we have added some details about two other patients of Simoncini.

DIY cancer treatment

On the web site of Tullio Simoncini, who claims he can cure cancer with baking soda, there is a page on DIY-treatments: it explains how patients can administer their baking soda infusions themselves in their own home. Simoncini’s Dutch patient Marjolein did this too.

Who in the world would believe such nonsense as DIY-treatment for cancer with baking soda? Well, frightened cancer patients to begin with, desperately frightened of having cancer and of the treatments they may have to undergo to save themselves. But then you hear of a ‘doctor’ who promises a 99,9 % cure, without any of the nasty side effects of conventional treatments! When your fear has made you vulnerable and gullible, it is easy to fall into this trap.

A case of advanced bladder cancer

During the night shift, a psychologically unstable man was brought into the intensive care. He was suffering from bladder cancer, had refused all conventional treatment and had been administering sodium-bicarbonate in the bladder himself, as is recommended by Tullio Simoncini.

The cancer, which of course wasn’t cured, had instead advanced and increased in size and had invaded nearby structures, causing a disastrous stenosis (narrowing) of the channel that carries urine from the kidney to the bladder, and an occlusion. The obstruction causes hydronephrosis (accumulation of urine in the kidney) which is a complication that destroys the structures of the kidney and causes renal failure.

In a nutshell: if this is not resolved quickly, it leads to death.

The doctor’s story

We hope the translation is clear to everyone and also shows the challenges and often spooky atmosphere of the night shift in a hospital.

Night shiftLast Friday I was on call, it’s my day, so to speak. If you call to talk to the nephrologist on call on a Friday, you have 50 to 75% of the time the fortune – or misfortune, depends – to speak with me.

From mid-morning we had been busy with a patient. The patient, a man aged 60, was brought in at the emergency room because of general malaise.

The tests reveal a creatinine 1700 μmol / l (normally less than 120) and a potassium level of 7 mmol / l (normal: 3,5-5,5 mmol / l) (all parameters examining the renal function, these reveal a severe renal insufficiency). They call and ask for an opinion: renal ultrasound, of course and treatment of symptoms.

Shortly thereafter another call:

– Hello?

– Listen, has a bilateral hydronephrosis (no leakage of urine so that it collects in the kidney, stagnating, which can cause serious damage, due to occlusion or narrowing of the uretere which is the channel that conducts urine from the kidney to the bladder ).

– You know, you told me that he had bladder cancer and was released from a clinic two days because of refusing the treatment, we have to do a nephrostomy

– Eh, it is … we are on track to …

An hour later

– Hello?

– The urologists want to know if you agree to removing the stenosis.

– Sure.

Still later:

– Hello?

“I am a radiologist, you are the nephrologist …”

-Yes, yes, an old and tired doctor who does not feel good at all …

-Listen, I was not able to put nephrostomy catheter, we will retry tomorrow.

-OK … then back again to the patient.

Comes in intensive care at 21.30, the nurse calls me jokingly: “Still one of your shelter from neuropsychiatry, come and see, you’ll …” In fact, I find a nice man, in bed and on the phone. Behaviour somewhat strange, a mixture of paranoia and manic exitement. He wants to reach his doctor in Italy. I begin to ask him something, he insults me and then ignores me. I take his phone. He gets up in bed, grabs the drip and the urinary catheter is out. There’s blood and urine in the bed, and his face is a few inches from my face. A magnificent scene. I want to treat him, he wants to hit me … I am used to this and I try to calm things. Quietly I leave the room, I’m already tired. I am going to check the tests, hoping for an improbable miracle. But there are no miracles in these stories. The creatinine is always 1700, the potassium 6 and he is anemic, with 6 (a low value) hemoglobin. Tomorrow the nephrostomia must be done, it is important that he is quiet then. If need be, we will have to dialyse.

I do not want to fight, to explain what I’m doing for someone with whom I have nothing to do. I prescribe a sedative, I go and check a patient at the ward, around 30-45 minutes later, then I change.

Back into the room.

– “Ah, look at him, now he has put a pedal bin liner over his head!”

How quaint!

nephrostomyFor those who do not know, the clothing for the insertion of a central venous route (when it is difficult or impossible to find a peripheral vein, arm, hand, for example, we must find another important central vein, such as carotid or femoral artery, which is more difficult, painful and risky) consists of a hat, which indeed is somewhat like a pedal bin liner, sterile gloves and coat.

I put on a smile.

When I explain what I am about to do, he makes one joke after another. Continues to play with words; frankly, it seems obsessive, often he speaks only in bites. It must be said that his life has evolved around his genital organ for the past months. Always somewhat of an obsession for a man, in this case it is pure folly. I play his joking game along, so does the nurse, but the bottom line is kind.

Gloves, syringe, the anaesthetic, the needle, find the femoral vein rather quickly, the canule, comes easily. Short break to explain everything to the trainee who thinks I’m going too fast. The most unpleasant moment with a 14 inch catheter is dylated. It hurts and bleeds especially when it is filled like a balloon (water and salt) (hydronephrosis due to edema also very severe, and fluid retention and electrolyte) and is the case of my new friend.

He jokes less now that we start to mount the catheter. I move the catheter upwards, the machine is mounted, I connect him to the machine, fortunately it all goes quickly. Between the pain, the rush of adrenaline, renal failure and medications (sedatives and painkillers) he falls asleep.

The night passed quietly. The next day, quick tests, I’ll just give it a shot. Despite dialysis, his creatinine was still 1200, this is not the biggest problem, but his potassium is still more than 6, we start again with another two hours of dialysis.

He is still pretty crazy and maniacal. He lets himself go, his talking is without head or tail, no problem. The nephrostomia succeeded Saturday afternoon, he no longer needs dialysis.

The patient’s history

On Monday he is better, less agitated, more normal. He begins to talk and with the help of his friends, we can now reconstruct his history.

For two years, he had blood in his urine. Knows he has cancer, has refused all conventional treatment for 6 months or a year … it is difficult to know. He found an alternative treatment on the internet. He agreed to inject himself into the bladder with sodium bicarbonate through a catheter, for about 6 months. However, it was a failure, what else could it have been? He cannot accept it, wants to continue on this road. I am angry …

Bladder massively infiltered by an ulcerated and hemorrhagic tumourHe has a huge bladder tumour, which makes him bleed like a slaughtered pig. The only positive factor: the kidney function is improving and he agrees to meet with the psychiatrist. He is not fond of the urologist; we’ll see what happens.

He tells us of his catheter, his pain, his life revolving round the blood in his urine, of the injections of sodium bicarbonate and again the pain, the joy of seeing clear urine and the disappointment to see the blood reappear. It is pathetic and I cannot help but to have some sympathy for him. He was ruined, made a fool of, and he knows there’s nothing he can do about it. We have 1-2 cases a month like this, prostatic adenomas, bladder cancer; but this is something else. It is truly depressing.

His tumour has grown to such a size that it has invaded the lower ureter. Surgery, if he accepts and if at all possible, may be very disabling and frankly, his prognosis would still be negative. If only we could have treated him two years ago, we could have dealt with it effectively…

He does not want to mention the name of the doctor who has told this damaging story. He describes the ‘therapy’ protocol to exorcise the cancer.

I am curious. I try Google and easily with the right keywords end up on curenaturalicancro.com (the web site of Tullio Simoncini). If you want to laugh, read this bit of pathetic pseudoscientific literature. It is shit (in bold and underlined). It is not rational, it is air, it is  nothing. Nothing here is true, it is a delirious concoction from A to Z. This site is dangerous. I can’t help laughing, it is so absurd, this seems to belong in The Imaginary Invalid by Molière. The white fungus in the middle of all cancers it says on the web site, it is a ridiculous amalgam, and sodium bicarbonate that heals everything. It is really funny, it is a travesty.

I laugh when I read about the ridiculous treatments, I would laugh all night if I didn’t have this patient in his bed in intensive care. He believed and perhaps still believes, probably less, but admitting that you have committed an idiocy is always difficult … it is intensely sad.

We should ban this site, stop and prohibit this charlatan to speak. I do not know how to do it, I do not know how to report this scam. Until I had this patient, I would not have imagined that one could believe such a pile of nonsense, it’s a scandal.

I love the internet, navigating it for hours on end and I love the space and sense of freedom. But when I see these kinds of sites and the results I have doubts. I know, it’s only technology, but still …

Certainly this patient would have met another charlatan in his own way if the network had not existed, but the internet is such an amplyfier…

Advice to cancer patients

We must always keep our critical attitude, doubting miraculous remedies and conspiracy theories, such as the one about supressed mircacle cures for cancer.

Cancer patients and those seeking information on treatment for this disease: beware of this man and his false promises. Tullio Simoncini has never shown one single case of cure from any illness. All the testimonials and stories on his web site have been evaluated by WeWee, who is a doctor, and by jli, who is a pathologist, and found to be false, manipulated, inaccurate and without the slightest evidence for any efficacy of his treatment. When you value your health, then contact a doctor and not a ‘healer’.

42 responses to “Is Cancer a Fungus? Tullio Simoncini and Bladder Cancer – Again

  1. pearlsdream July 1, 2009 at 10:08 am

    Quote Beatis

    “Chemotherapy started … What can I say – it was bad, but not all bad and not all of the time. I had lots of pills to stop me from being sick and I made good use of them. After the first round I became very sick on Sunday. Monday morning it was even worse, so I called the NP and she arranged for extra medication to be delivered. I was able to walk our dogs for an hour that same afternoon. The first week after chemo I always felt bad, there was a huge, foul-tasting lump in my stomach that made me feel on the verge of throwing up the whole time.”

    Vs

    quote Beth

    “One: Physically I feel great. I haven’t felt sick at all throughout this entire journey. Pretty amazing! Thank you, God, for strength, energy and life!”
    http://journeytowardhealth.blogspot.com/2009/06/grateful-heart.html

    I think the point Im trying to illustrate amongst the two very harrowing stories, is that there is always uncertainty of recurance, I can see why Beatis chose the conventional route, but I can also relate to Beth’s gratitude to quality of life- Living with cancer for over a year pain and symptom free is quite phenomenal

    I sincerely hope both Beatis and Beth live cancer free for many more years to come.

  2. beatis July 1, 2009 at 10:33 am

    I sincerely hope both Beatis and Beth live cancer free for many more years to come.

    Thank you!🙂

    I must admit I have been losing quite an amount of sleep over Beth and did so again last night after reading her latest post. You say that there is always uncertainty of recurrence and that is true. What I find very hard to accept though is this: early stage breast cancer currently has a cure rate of 85 to 90%. With cure rate I mean that the cancer has not recurred for more than 10 years after diagnosis in 85 to 90% of the women. Beth’s cancer was early stage; she told us herself that her lymph nodes were clear.

    The succes rate of breast cancer – early stage or metastasized – treated alternatively, is as good as zero. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone should give up a possible 90% chance of complete cure for the 99% certainty of dying from this. Compared to that, living with cancer for over a year pain and symptom free is not quite phenomenal I think.

    What harrows me is why anyone should make such a choice, it’s utterly beyond me. It is also beyond me how people could ever think that this is what God wants them to do: to give up the only real chance there is to beat their cancer. It is not even sure she would have had to undergo a mastectomy! I am so scared for Beth, people have died before their time because of decisions like this and I’m afraid I will never understand.

    Btw, my quality of life has been excellent again for over a year now, there is absolutely nothing wrong with me. Like Beth, I am very grateful: grateful that there was a good chance I could beat the cancer; grateful that I was able to confront my fears and stick with the treatment; grateful for how I feel again now and deeply, deeply grateful for the blessing that is modern science, without which I could not have survived.

  3. beatis July 1, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Today I emailed our pathologist jli, telling him how upset I was for Beth that she still is not cancer free. The fact that the bloodtest showed cancer acitivity made me think her cancer had already metastasized. This is jli’s reply, which he said was ok for me to post here:

    Maybe a few thoughts of mine can ease things up a bit. It seems that the “cancer activity assessment” is based on some altie blood work. I can´t figure out how blood work will tell anything about that unless it has already metastasized. And even then some sort of image diagnostic technique would be required for confimation that it is indeed cancer that causes disturbances in blood values. I can think of a few reasons why an altie would want their “customers” to believe that they still have cancer. First he/she is able to continue the treatment (earn money). Second the dogma that conventional treatment (in this case surgery) can´t cure cancer is reinforced – So that in the end it will look like it was the altie-treatment that brought the cure. Third – if the cancer recurs it can be claimed that surgery was ineffective, and this was demonstrated clearly by the blood work. So in conclusion: If the surgery/pathology was done properly she might be cancer free – despite what the alties are telling her.

  4. cryptocheilus July 1, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    What a sad story. It’s a good thing though that Simoncini is exposed in France i.e. in French language.

    Thanks jli for filling us in.
    (I noticed multiple visits from Denmark on my blog. Is that you? How do you cope with the Dutch language?)

  5. WeWee July 1, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    I can´t figure out how blood work will tell anything about that unless it has already metastasized.

    That’s true.
    There’s no specific blood test to check metastases or cancer progression.
    Probably this was some kind of alternative test, useless for diagnosis.

  6. beatis July 1, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    So, as far as I can see, there are two possibilities:
    1. There could really be a problem, for example because the surrounding tissue after Beth’s operation contained cancerous cells. Naturopathic treatment will not address such a problem;
    2. The surrounding tissue was clean, there are no cancerous cells and they have Beth worried for nothing.
    Either way, she is the one paying the price.

  7. pearlsdream July 2, 2009 at 2:53 am

    aren’t cancer markers, for example CEA levels a blood indication of cancer activity? when our oncologist does regular blood works, he always has the CEA levels tested, everytime they are up he indicates that the cancer is “progressing” or that there is cancerous activity going on

  8. beatis July 2, 2009 at 5:39 am

    Tumour markers for cancer are often not reliable and tumour markers for breast cancer are particularly unreliable. You can have elevated tumour markers without cancer being present and vice versa.

    For many reasons, tumor markers alone are usually not enough to know if cancer is present. Most tumor markers can be made by normal cells as well as by cancer cells. Sometimes, non-cancerous diseases can also cause levels of certain tumor markers to be higher than normal. And not every person with cancer may have higher levels of a tumor marker.

    Consistently elevated tumour markers though can be a sign of problems, but even then further examinations are necessary. Here’s good information on tumour markers: http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/content/PED_2_3X_Tumor_Markers.asp

    Beth had a lumpectomy in Italy. Normally, the removed tissue is examined by the pathologist, to ascertain whether it still contains any cancerous cells. Depending on the outcomes, further treatment may be necessary, such as radiation at the edges of the wound, or sometimes even a mastectomy.

    This pathology examination is absolutely vital for assessing the situation regarding the cancer and whether further exams are necessary and also for selecting the most adequate treatment. I don’t read any of that on Beth’s blog. The bloodtest she had now, as both jli and WeWee have pointed out, it useless for diagnosis.

    All in all, reading Beth’s story, it seems to me she is definitely not in good medical hands. Or it must be that she is leaving out all kind of information, which I don’t think she is. We can only hope, as jli said, that the surgery in Italy (and the pathology as well, if any was done there) was done properly and she is now cancer free.

  9. pearlsdream July 2, 2009 at 7:43 am

    Thanks for the info on tumour markers.
    I do find it disturbing that tumour markers are in fact not as useful as what has been communicated to me in the past… Because as mentioned our oncologist would do regular tests for this during chemo to establish the response rate and whether to go on or not with the treatment, a scan was not done to verify this until 2 months after treatment stopped and then it was found the cancer had metastasized- another story for another time-
    Your info has been very helpful though

    But can we be sure, Beths tumour marker levels were not the indicators in Beths blood work that is leading her ‘doctors’ to believe there is still Cancerous activity going on?

  10. beatis July 2, 2009 at 8:52 am

    @ pearlsdream,

    2 months after treatment stopped and then it was found the cancer had metastasized

    I am truly sorry to hear this!

    I do find it disturbing that tumour markers are in fact not as useful as what has been communicated to me in the past…

    I agree, it is disturbing. This is fact the reason that in my country in cases like mine, where the chance of metastases occurring is very small, they advise not to test for tumour markers when there are no other indications of anything being amiss. In 9 out of 10 cases testing for tumour markers would either give women a false sense of security or have them needlessly worried and there is no sense in that.

    Besides, harsh though it may sound, in most cases you usually can’t be cured anyway, should any metastases turn up. That doesn’t mean though that nothing can be done palliatively, and sometimes this is quite a lot. My best friend lived with incurable ovarian cancer for 12 years, most of these with a very good quality of life, allowing her to continue her work as a teacher, albeit it with some interruptions. A lady in my neighbourhood had metastases of her breast cancer 7 years after diagnosis. She is still alive now, 6 years after that and still in reasonably good condition, although now she does not have very much time left anymore. These are still exceptions, but they show that also in palliative treatments progess is made, resulting in longer survival time of metastasized cancers.

    But can we be sure, Beths tumour marker levels were not the indicators in Beths blood work that is leading her ‘doctors’ to believe there is still Cancerous activity going on?

    Based on what the experts say, including the ones on this blog, I don’t think we can.

  11. jli July 2, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Chryptocheilus wrote:

    (I noticed multiple visits from Denmark on my blog. Is that you? How do you cope with the Dutch language?)

    Guilty as charged. It started when a mutual friend of ours posted photos that I had given of cancers, illustrating the point that a pathologist does examine the white stuff in cancers. And the site I´ve made about cancer-anatomy has also been discussed on your blog, which is why I once in a while stop by. I can pick up some of the dutch words, but I rely heavily on google-translation for understanding what you guys are telling each other😀.

  12. jli July 2, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    But can we be sure, Beths tumour marker levels were not the indicators in Beths blood work that is leading her ‘doctors’ to believe there is still Cancerous activity going on?

    In an earlier post she mentioned a cancer marker that went from 1 to 126, which was an indication that her own immune system had engaged in the combat against cancer. We really don´t know what kind of cancer markers her nutritionist has analyzed. But if this is the only marker, it is not sufficient evidence for persistence of cancer (as far as i can tell).

  13. cryptocheilus July 3, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    @ jli

    You are very welcome to my blog!! Got lots of respect for you, especially for debunking Simoncini in a very scientific way. Feel free to comment and mix with the crowd if you want (no obligation though) . Most visitors understand English.
    Google translate is a wonderful tool isn’t it?

  14. Rich July 5, 2009 at 3:01 am

    We’ve discussed Simonici in the past, and I’ve said that his Baking Soda remedy stinks, and he’s a quack.

    On the other hand, he has some recommendations for Iodine for Breast Cancer, etc… Iodine is rather interesting and does have some solid medical literature on it’s side.

    Disclaimer: if you have cancer, go see a real doctor… get it cut out… if it’s gone, it’s cured (and you don’t become another Farah Fawcett).
    *****
    Iodine is twice as strong of an antibiotic as Chlorine, with half the toxicity. People digest 2 grams of Chlorine (NaCl) per day. Iodine kills 90% of bacteria, and kills yeast as well(a better yeast killer than chlorine).

    I’ve got a ton of info on Iodine, which I will save for a follow-up post.
    *****
    As the quack Simonici (my words), does advocate something (Iodine), which does kill pathogens, and I have a personal belief that it is standard flora and fauna overgrowth(infection) that leads to some cancer problems(not really controversial)… perhaps we can get a good discussion going.

  15. beatis July 5, 2009 at 7:58 am

    On the other hand, he has some recommendations for Iodine for Breast Cancer

    What do you mean by ‘recommendations?’

    People digest 2 grams of Chlorine (NaCl) per day. Iodine kills 90% of bacteria, and kills yeast as well(a better yeast killer than chlorine).

    What in the world do bacteria en yeast have to do with breast cancer??

  16. pearlsdream July 5, 2009 at 8:44 am

    Quote… “What in the world do bacteria en yeast have to do with breast cancer??” end quote…

    or farrah fawcett for that matter? she had rectal cancer…
    there’s plenty other people who haven’t made it through either…

    Also you’re calling Simoncini a quack and then promoting his use of Iodine… with your own recommendations… I’m confused!?

  17. Rich July 6, 2009 at 2:14 am

    Dear Pearlsdream,
    I do not wish to promote any treatment(thus the disclaimer… go see a real doctor if you have cancer).

    One of Simonici’s controversial treatments does have some medical history behind it was my point.
    ****
    farrah fawcett for that matter? she had rectal cancer
    — my point here was that she went to some funny doctors, and then the cancer mestasticized in her liver. I heard a real doctor discussing this one on the radio, that rectal cancer is usually treatable.
    ****
    “What in the world do bacteria en yeast have to do with breast cancer??”
    — infection has been discussed as a source of a percentage of cancers (HPV and H.Pylori as a couple of examples).
    ****
    Nonradioactive Iodide Effectively Induces Apoptosis in Genetically Modified Lung Cancer Cells
    http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/63/16/5065

    Materia Medica And Therapeutics Inorganic Substances | by Charles D. F.
    Phillips(1882)
    http://chestofbooks.com/health/materia-medica-drugs/Materia-Medica-Therapeutics-\
    Inorganic-Substances/index.html
    “Mammary Growths. Iodine (Iodum) Treatment
    Congestions and localized hardness and obstruction of mammary ducts are amenable
    to iodine frictions, but the skin of the breast is very sensitive and easily
    irritated. I can recommend a weak solution of iodoform (1 in 15 to 30) for many
    of these mammary growths. In 1871 I ordered it for a lady with a large,
    suspicious-looking tumor, which was to have been removed the following week
    under the advice of an eminent surgeon. The growth quickly diminished under the
    iodoform, and the lady is now (1880) quite well. This is only one of many
    similar instances which have come under my own observation.”

    “Uterine Fibroma. Iodine (Iodum) Treatment”
    Direct injection of the drug into the growth is also a valuable resource with
    due precaution. I have injected 10 to 20 min. of an aqueous solution of iodine (half the strength of the British Pharmacopoeia tincture) in twenty-three cases of uterine fibroids of large size, and repeated the operation several times with encouraging results. Nearly all improved considerably under the treatment, and the tumors disappeared, in five instances, within twelve months of the first injection. “

  18. Rich July 6, 2009 at 2:34 am

    Cancer is of course a complex disease… seems to be a moving target. The science seems to be getting better and better every day (not quick enough for anyone of course). But yeah, don’t treat yourself, go see a professional.

    Here is a neat article I came across the other day.

    Cancer Stem Cells May Be At The Root Of Brain Tumors
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071221125945.htm

  19. beatis July 6, 2009 at 8:18 am

    “What in the world do bacteria en yeast have to do with breast cancer??”
    – infection has been discussed as a source of a percentage of cancers (HPV and H.Pylori as a couple of examples).

    That one type of cancer is caused by a virus (not bacteria) and the other by a bacteria, doesn’t mean that all cancers are. There are no indications whatsoever that breast cancer is caused by a virus or a bacteria.

    Are you sure the dates in your latest comment were not typing errors -1871 and 1880…? And Materia Medica – that’s about homeopathy. Are you pulling our leg or what?

  20. Rich July 6, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    “that’s about homeopathy”
    — Homeopathy is usually a few drops, very diluted… like trying to cure a headache with 10mg of Aspirin. That being said, it sure looks like wierd stuff in that book, like some of the wierd stuff one might find in a homeopathy book.

    Before Pasteur, western medicine had a lot of strange cures (and many that if practiced today would send a doctor to jail). My point was that Iodine does have a 150-year medical history of use in modern western science, and is still used today (Sporotrichosis, Gum Disease, etc…).

  21. jennyj0 July 6, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    My point was that Iodine does have a 150-year medical history of use in modern western science, and is still used today (Sporotrichosis, Gum Disease, etc…).

    It didn’t seem like that was your point. It seemed your point was that breast cancer can be cured with iodine. Which it can’t.

  22. Rich July 6, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    “Which it can’t.”
    — Cancer studies are interesting to read; as stated, this stuff is complex and better left to the professionals. Here is a new study on Iodine and Breast Cancer.

    Iodine Alters Gene Expression in the MCF7 Breast Cancer Cell Line: Evidence for an Anti-Estrogen Effect of Iodine (Int. J. Med. Sci. 2008, 5)
    http://www.medsci.org/v05p0189.pdf

  23. beatis July 6, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Iodine Alters Gene Expression in the MCF7 Breast Cancer Cell Line: Evidence for an Anti-Estrogen Effect of Iodine (Int. J. Med. Sci. 2008, 5)

    Nowhere in this article does it say that breast cancer can be cured with iodine.

  24. cryptocheilus July 6, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Simoncini uses Iodine to treat melanoma (of the skin). As in rub it on. This discussion your starting is a whole othter discussion. In no way this information is underpinning the treatment given by Simoncini.

    Secondly: In no way is this reasearch underpinning the use of Iodine as suggested by ‘the chest of woo’:
    (you forgot to give a working link so here it is:
    http://tinyurl.com/Charles-D-F-Phillips quote

    The research you have posted is interesting but in no way related with what Simoncini does.

    Here’s another one for your scrapbook:

  25. Rich July 6, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    “The research you have posted is interesting but in no way related with what Simoncini does.” — cryptocheilus
    — Agreed. Thanks for a corrected link and the new article.

    “he has some recommendations for Iodine for Breast Cancer” — Rich
    — I stand corrected. My memory was faulty; it was skin cancer Simonici was using Iodine for. He uses the strange baking soda idea for Breast cancer.
    ****
    “Nowhere in this article does it say that breast cancer can be cured with iodine.” — beatis
    — Agreed. The study is interesting and the graph is interesting, but it is only a study of the role of Iodine and some Breast Cancer cells(one line) in a lab. I apologize for my poor wording and inaccuracies.

  26. beatis July 6, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    If I understand correctly, the study was carried out to find out if there was sufficient basis for formulating a hypothesis.

  27. Ray July 17, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Sadly another Dutch resident victim of this charlatan has been laid in the ground – a good friend of mine. She swallowed Simoncini’s rotten clap-trap, handed over the cash and prayed that we, her friends, were the ones who were wrong – not him. I personally, amongst others, advised her to not hold out hope for any solution, this way, but since there was no hope for any other solution, either – scientific, medical or otherwise – and since one cannot take one’s money to the grave with one, he did unfortunately find it relatively easy to acquire some of her funds, by using her vulnerability and desperation.

  28. beatis July 17, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    I am so shocked, this is terrible, I am very sorry to hear this.

  29. Zanny July 18, 2009 at 5:31 am

    I’m sorry to hear you’re friend has passed also…

    Quote “there was no hope for any other solution, either – scientific, medical or otherwise”

    So did the cancer kill her or did Simoncini?

  30. Ray July 18, 2009 at 7:45 am

    It was absolutely NOT Simoncini that killed her. I was not accusing anyone of murder and nowhere did I say that. Simoncini merely took advantage of her desperate vulnerability and sold her false hope.

    This may also be considered criminal activity and it seems that it has officially been considered so, although he has appealed the charge.

    Certainly, the medical service of Holland has specifically warned the public of this person’s activities, because they consider it to be worse than a wicked confidence trick, but even highly dangerous advice.

    See: News from the Netherlands Health Inspectorate (http://www.kwakzalverij.nl/681/De_kankertherapie_van_Dottor_Tullio_Simoncini_uit_Rome)
    and (in English): http://www.cancertreatmentwatch.org/reports/simoncini.shtml

    “Based on expert reports of two physicians, the Dutch Health Care Inspectorate has concluded that Simoncini’s treatment is dangerous and should not be administered.”

    Also interesting is the Danish site: http://www.123hjemmeside.dk/cancer_is_not_a_fungus

    All of these references were passed on to our friend, to no avail. Unfortunately, people like Simoncini can be very persuading to those who face little hope.

  31. beatis July 18, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Simoncini’s advice is dangerous. Cancer is no fungus and it can never be cured with sodium bicarbonate.

    Ray, I am extremely sorry there was no hope for your friend.

    But, Zanny, even when a person is incurable, that doesn’t mean they are by definition fair game for every charlatan who wants to make a buck. There a far better things to do with your money than to spend it on bogus therapies.

  32. anaximperator July 18, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Here is everything on this blog on Tullio Simoncini:
    https://anaximperator.wordpress.com/category/tullio-simoncini/
    New posts will be added in a few days.

  33. jli July 19, 2009 at 8:23 am

    Sorry for your loss Ray. It is scary that people can become so fact-resistant, and appauling that other people are willing to exploit this.

  34. Ray July 20, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Everyone: Thanks for your sympathetic comments.

    Beatis: IMHO Your last paragraph says it all.

    I’m not entirely sure whether cancer is or is not a fungus.

    After all, I lived most of my life believing that ulcers were caused by diet and stress, not a form of pilori bacterium, which, since, has been proved as the truth. The entire scientific and medical establishment stood by the false former concept, in the absence of proof of the latter, until that proof was made available. The result was many more tragedies than necessary.

    However, I am sure that there is no evidence to say that it is a fungus and there is, at least, a fair amount that suggests that it is certainly not. My mind is always open, but never accepting of truth without fair evidence.

    aniximperator: Thanks for the link to the other related blog. It led me to a reference to the JREF blog discussion on the subject. I was searching their site for that and had failed to find it.

    I wrote to a researcher from JREF to ask if there was anything they can do about preventing such tragic circumstances, in future. I am a great fan of James Randi and have been for many years.

    At present, this sort of open discussion seems to be the only route for dealing with this (or any other) selfish, greedy and dangerous charlatan.

    It is something, but there need to be more powerful ways and means, somehow.

  35. beatis July 20, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    jli on this blog is a pathologist and has been evaluating cancer on a daily basis for many years. He hardly ever sees fungi in cancers and has never come across a fungus as the cause for cancer. He also does scientific research into cancer.

    But even if cancer were a fungus, it still couldn’t be cured with sodium bicacarbonate. There is effective medication against systemic fungi and sodium bicarb is not one of them.

    My best friend died of ovarian cancer 4 years ago. She had quite some money saved, which was for her young daughter’s upkeep, college etc, for she was only 17 when her mother died. She also spent some of her savings on a wonderful vacation with family and close friends in a beautiful holiday house in Italy. We knew it would be the last time for us to be together like this, but in spite of the sadness we had a wonderful time. For the rest of our lives we will cherish those memories and they have been a great comfort to us many times already.

    Simoncini must know that it is extremely rare to be cured of metastasized cancer. If he really feels for cancer patients he should tell them to enjoy whatever time they have left to the utmost with their loved ones. But instead he robs them of their last penny, selling them his useless junk. That is despicable beyond words I think.

  36. jli July 20, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    He hardly ever sees fungi in cancers…

    When present it is only in the superficial debris, and only in very few locations, where fungi are commonly found (eg. the inside of the stomach). They are neither an integrated paty of the cancer nor present inside the cancer. They are never present in/at cancers located at sites where fungi are not commonly found (eg. breast cancer).

    @ Ray:
    I understand the analogy to Helicobacter Pylori as a cause of gastric ulcer. Helicobacter Pylori are easy to see in the microscope when present.
    Furthermore clinical data support the association with the disease.
    None of this is the case with the “cancer=fungus idea”. It is safe to say there is evidence of absence – not just absence of evidence.
    I agree with you that greater public awareness is needed to stop this nonsense. Though it may not be perfect, blogs like this is a good place to start. This blog as well as the “cancer_is_not_a_fungus” site has made their ways to the first few pages on google alongside with the proponents sites (dependent on search terms of course). Your participation here with another report of a friends misfortune is important in that context too.

  37. Ray July 21, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    “evidence of absence – not just absence of evidence”

    Correct way of putting it. Thanks, jli, for the clarification.

  38. jli July 21, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    You are very welcome Ray🙂
    I am in the proces of adding a section on harmful effects of Simoncinis approach to the cancer_is_not_a_fungus website. If you and your friends relatives would like, I´d be happy to bring your case forward too.

  39. LMO July 28, 2009 at 10:32 am

    Hi all, I am no doctor, but I have used Dr Simoncini’s SB treatment on myself for bladder cancer. Many of you ask why would a person not use conventional methods.
    Have a look at this link. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/05/fungus-causing-cancer-a-novel-approach-to-the-most-common-form-of-death.aspx?source=nl
    scroll down to stats on how effective Chemotherapy is on various cancers. That is why we use other methods. Oh by the way did you notice the success rate of Chemo on Bladder cancer. there isn’t any.
    I have a question regarding the man who’s bladder cancer was not cured by Dr Simoncini’s method. Did he try conventional methods 1st and did they work? did conventional methods work after he used Simoncini’s method. I would like to know how he is after 5 years.

  40. beatis July 28, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    @ LMO; July 28, 2009 at 10:32 am

    We know this video.

    I have a question regarding the man who’s bladder cancer was not cured by Dr Simoncini’s method. Did he try conventional methods 1st and did they work? did conventional methods work after he used Simoncini’s method. I would like to know how he is after 5 years.

    This patient did not use conventional methods. I don’t know how he is, but given his condition at the time of his admission he will most likely have died by now.

    Have a look at this link. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/05/fungus-causing-cancer-a-novel-approach-to-the-most-common-form-of-death.aspx?source=nl
    scroll down to stats on how effective Chemotherapy is on various cancers. That is why we use other methods. Oh by the way did you notice the success rate of Chemo on Bladder cancer.

    The article on the Mercola website refers to this study:
    http://tinyurl.com/2xb7or

    Some time ago on this blog we discussed this study at large. This is what was said then:

    The aim of the study was:

    ‘A literature search for randomised clinical trials reporting a 5-year survival benefit attributable solely to cytotoxic chemotherapy in adult malignancies.’

    You must bear in mind that surgery, not chemotherapy is the primary therapeutic modality for most cancers, especially early stage. Most forms of chemotherapy are not given as the sole cure for cancer, but either as an “adjuvant” or as a palliative.

    Palliative
    If it’s been determined that cancer cannot be cured, doctors may still suggest chemotherapy to shrink the cancer, relieve the symptoms or give the patient a longer life by controlling the cancer or putting it into remission.

    Adjuvant
    “Adjuvant” means “auxiliary.” This means that adjuvant chemotherapy is not given to cure the cancer but to help lower the risk of the cancer coming back after surgery. In breast cancer for example, adjuvant chemotherapy can increase 10-year recurrence-free survival with 5-7 %.

    Then there also are a lot of cases where no chemotherapy is given, for example in women with small breast cancers and non-metastatic lymph nodes. They ususally have a lumpectomy, followed by radiation, but no chemotherapy. Yet these cases are included in the study.

    For some kinds of cancer, chemotherapy is given as a cure. Some forms of cancer can even be cured completely with chemotherapy alone. Examples of cancers where chemotherapy works very well are testicular cancer, Hodgkin’s lymphoma, some forms of cancer in children and leukaemia. However, most of these were not included in the study, leading to an incorrectly low percentage.

    Here is a link to the transcript of the interview by the Health Report with Professor Graeme Morgan, who undertook the study, and Professor Michael Boyer, Head of Medical Oncology at Sydney Cancer Centre: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/helthrpt/stories/s1348333.htm It is very informative and worth reading carefully.

  41. rectal cancer patient October 24, 2010 at 4:03 am

    Thank you for sharing this. Unreliable treatments for cancer have been widespread on the internet nowadays. I really hope rectal caner patient will not fall for that trick that you’ve mentioned. It’s sad that they would try that hoping for a positive result that will never come. Many people should really be aware of this. I admire your effort for sharing this I hope more people could read about this. I would definitely share this with my friends an families. Thank you very much! I would love to read more blog entries from you. I hope you won’t hesitate to update your blog. I would definitely come back to your site every now and then.

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